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<description><![CDATA[I have a deed that has the grantee as being ABC and the grantor as being ABC. I have never come across another deed where both entities where the same. The deed, I was told, was a Quit Claim Deed. However, it is titled as a Limited Warranty Deed that is for an old road bed that is shown on both adjoining properties survey. The survey's show that the road bed does not belong to either property owner. I could not find a QC going from the prior owners into ABC or the other ad-joiner. Any thoughts as to the legality of this deed?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[ABC probably wanted to get something on record in their name to establish a claim to the property.  This is usually the case when I've seen the grantor and grantee being the same entity.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your response. I believe thatis the purpose, I'm just not sure if it's legal. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>&nbsp;</p><p style="line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Times New Roman, serif; color: black;"><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>If the executor or administrator of an estate is the beneficiary of the estate in which land is involved, the executor executes an executor's deed in which he or she, acting as the executor, executes a deed that conveys the land to himself or herself, individually; or the administrator, acting as the administrator, executes a deed that conveys the land to himself or herself, individually.<span>&nbsp; </span></span></p><p style="line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Times New Roman, serif; color: black;"><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>Alternately, when a will devising land is probated, the executor, instead of executing an executor's deed, executes an assent to devise that puts title to the land in the devisee named in the will.<span>&nbsp; </span>If the devisee is the executor, the assent to devise names that same person as both the executor and devisee.<span>&nbsp; </span>An assent to devise, however, is not a deed.<span>&nbsp; </span>Its purpose is to provide notice in the deed records of the transfer of title, for which, otherwise, the notice is only in the probated will.</span></p><p style="line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Times New Roman, serif; color: black;"><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>Sometimes when two or more persons or entities own interests in the same land and they desire to "rearrange" their interests, they execute a deed in which the same persons or entities are listed as both the grantors and grantees.<span>&nbsp; </span>For example, if a husband and wife own a piece of land as tenants in common and they desire to convert it to a joint tenancy, they will execute a deed naming themselves as the grantors possessing the land as tenants in common, and conveying the land to themselves as joint tenants with right of survivorship.<span>&nbsp; </span>This method for "rearranging" interests in the same piece of real estate is not considered good title practice by some attorneys.</span></p><p style="line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Times New Roman, serif; color: black;"><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>But if the "deed" described in the above post is for a road bed, it doesn't seem to fit any of the above described situations.<span>&nbsp; </span>If a road is the boundary between adjoining properties, the rebuttable presumption is that each owner owns fee simple title to the center of the road, subject to the easement for the road.<span>&nbsp; </span>This deed may be a crude (and ultimately untenable) attempt by one of the landowners to create color of title to whatever land the instrument describes, and, coupled with possession, establish title to the land by adverse possession.</span></p><p style="line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Times New Roman, serif; color: black;"><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>To determine what kind of deed a writing is (warranty deed, limited warranty deed, quitclaim deed, etc.), the instrument must be analyzed as a whole rather than what any specific portion of it says.</span></p><p style="line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Times New Roman, serif; color: black;">&nbsp;</span></p><p style="line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Times New Roman, serif; color: black;"><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>Post a copy of the deed and the title abstract so we can see what is involved.</span></p>]]></description>
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