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<description><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: black; font-size: 14pt; font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>I would like to describe one of several surveying incidents that have particularly peeved me.<span>&nbsp; </span>First, the background.<span>&nbsp; </span>Noble Jones came to Georgia with the very first group of colonists in 1733 and was appointed the public surveyor for the colony.<span>&nbsp; </span>He prospered and was soon recognized as one of the leading persons in Georgia.<span>&nbsp; </span>He acquired, through grants and purchases, several tracts of land throughout the colony.<span>&nbsp; </span>Among the tracts he acquired were the following, all adjoining and within the Savannah Township:</span></p> <p><span style="color: black; font-size: 14pt; font-family: Times New Roman, serif;">&nbsp;</span></p> <p><span style="color: black; font-size: 14pt; font-family: Times New Roman, serif;">Farm Lots 1, 5, and 7, Third Tything, Anson Ward;</span></p> <p><span style="color: black; font-size: 14pt; font-family: Times New Roman, serif;">Farm Lots 1-5, 7, 8, Portion of 9, Western Farm Trust Lot, and Eastern Farm Trust Lot, Fourth Tything, Anson Ward;</span></p> <p><span style="color: black; font-size: 14pt; font-family: Times New Roman, serif;">Farm Lots 8, 9, and 10, Wilmington Tything, Darby Ward;</span></p> <p><span style="color: black; font-size: 14pt; font-family: Times New Roman, serif;">Portion of one of the 500-acre tracts.</span></p> <p><span style="color: black; font-size: 14pt; font-family: Times New Roman, serif;">&nbsp;</span></p> <p><span style="color: black; font-size: 14pt; font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>He named the whole “Poplar Grove Plantation”.<span>&nbsp; </span>Today it is bounded, generally, on the west by Montgomery Street, and on the east by Waters Avenue.<span>&nbsp; </span>Attached is a copy of a portion of the 1875 map and a portion of the 1906 map of Chatham County on which John Brannen of the city of Savannah drew the outlines of Poplar Grove. </span></p> <p><span style="color: black; font-size: 14pt; font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>The property passed, intact, down through Noble Jones’s family.<span>&nbsp; </span>In 1890 John R. Tebeau resurveyed the tract for the estate of George Wymberley Jones Derenne, great grandson of Noble Jones.<span>&nbsp; </span>Tebeau’s survey shows the tract containing 805 ½ acres.<span>&nbsp; </span>There is no natural stone in coastal Georgia.<span>&nbsp; </span>The family had rough-squared slate stones custom-cut in New England, inscribed “DER”, shipped down for Tebeau to set at the corners.<span>&nbsp; </span>Tebeau’s plat, recorded in Map Book 1, page 107, with a redrawing in Map Book 2, page 166, in the Chatham County clerk’s office, shows each corner (there are twelve of them) marked by these stones.<span>&nbsp; </span>The stones measure about 4 inches by 8 inches in width and thickness and stand about 20 inches above the ground.</span></p> <p><span style="color: black; font-size: 14pt; font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>Several years ago we were hired to survey a tract of land on Abercorn Street that adjoined Poplar Grove.<span>&nbsp; </span>The area was undergoing intense commercial development.<span>&nbsp; </span>The tract we were surveying, and the adjoining tract, were both to be developed.<span>&nbsp; </span>When we initially went on the property, one of the Derenne boundary stones, which marked a common corner of our tract and the adjoining tract, was intact and undisturbed.<span>&nbsp; </span>The surveyor who had just surveyed the adjoining tract set an iron pin about six feet from the Derenne stone, called that the corner, and labeled the Derenne stone “Tombstone.”<span>&nbsp; </span>When we went back on the property a few days later, the Derenne stone was gone.<span>&nbsp; </span>The hole where it had been had been carefully filled with dirt and the area where it had stood had been deliberately covered over with leaves and pine straw to hide the fact that it had been there.<span>&nbsp; </span>We could get no explanation as to who removed the stone, but it is only logical to conclude that the adjoining landowner, seeing a “Tombstone” on his land and taking the surveyor’s word that a cemetery was there, clandestinely removed it so it could not potentially interfere with his development.</span></p> <p><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>The surveyor is to blame for causing the removal of such an ancient and important landmark.<span>&nbsp; </span>Based on the description of the property he put in the title block on his plat, he had no idea he was surveying part of a Farm Lot of Savannah Township and had no idea it was part of Poplar Grove Plantation.<span>&nbsp; </span>He obviously did not research the property in the courthouse.<span>&nbsp; </span>If he had, he would have had the Tebeau plat, and if he did not know otherwise, would have readily perceived from the Tebeau plat that the stone was not a tombstone but a property corner.<span>&nbsp; </span>We were surveying a tract that adjoined Poplar Grove; but, we researched Poplar Grove and the other adjoining tracts, used the Teabeau plat and the deeds for these other adjoining tracts in ascertaining the boundaries of the property we were surveying, and the Derenne stone was (should have been) one of the corners of our tract.</span></p> <p><span style="color: black; font-size: 14pt; font-family: Times New Roman, serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[In either case, property corner or tombstone, the monument shouldn't have be touched.  The fact someone would remove what they thought was a tombstone is disgraceful. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<p style="margin-bottom: 0in; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Times New Roman, serif; color: black;"><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>My supposition is that the developer removed the Derenne boundary stone as a result of the belief that it was a tombstone, and it’s existence meant there might be more, unmarked, graves in the vicinity, which, if they were to be left alone, would impose a tremendous financial cost to the developer.<span>&nbsp; </span>The development was a retail store with paved parking and that was designed to cover the entire site.&nbsp; I have known of two situations in which a developer bought a tract of land that was heavily grown up in trees and underbrush, financed it through a bank, had an engineer to design a development to go on the land, contracted with a contractor to clear the land and construct the project, the contractor moved equipment to the site and began clearing, and, lo and behold, a previously unknown cemetery that had been obscured by the undergrowth, appeared.<span>&nbsp; </span>In each case, the matter was hushed up, the cemeteries were bulldozed, and the projects completed as planned.</span></p> <p style="margin-bottom: 0in; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Times New Roman, serif; color: black;"><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>I can’t help but have some sympathy for developers who are put in such situations, given the fact that the family and friends of the deceased did not think enough of the matter to maintain the cemeteries so that any would-be purchaser of the land could be put on notice of the existence of the cemetery.</span></p><p style="margin-bottom: 0in; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Times New Roman, serif; color: black;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; But in the case of the Derenne stone there was no cemetery there at all.<br /></span></p><p style="margin-bottom: 0in; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Times New Roman, serif; color: black;">&nbsp;</span></p>]]></description>
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