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<description><![CDATA[<p>I have been following the new rules and dutifully adding the adjoiners to the legal descriptions I write only to have title attorneys send them back with the language struck through and asked to revise them accordingly. When I asked why, I was told that the call for adjoiner would override the bearing and distance. Has anyone else experienced this since the rule change? How did you handle it?</p>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>This&nbsp; comes up ever so often, thankfully less often that it used to.&nbsp; There is a legal doctrine of the construction of legal descriptions which is the valid argument of the most competent attorneys that bother to read our work product.&nbsp; Not that my inference I'm stating that not all attorneys are competent title lawyers and not all attorneys actually read and review our work.&nbsp; Anyway, the argument is that if an adjoiner overlaps the subject property at some point in the future, that the adjoiner would have a defense that his boundary is called for in subject tract's description and thus controls.&nbsp; Stranger things have happened, and title insurance companies are all too familiar with all of the things that could go wrong, so they object.&nbsp; The current rule on legal descriptions was adopted over my objections not long after I was appointed to the board.&nbsp; I'ts really not an issue, in my opinion, when surveyors apply common sense.&nbsp; I would also note that there has been no request or momentum to have the rule changed.&nbsp; Following is a standard explanation that I've given to many surveyors and attorneys:</p>
<p><em>This is to provide a response to your question about “legal descriptions” provided by land surveyors. Board Rule 180-7-.02(2) pertains to written property descriptions which are prepared and presented as a report. Such a legal description would also be governed by the Sealing of Documents Rule which is 180-12-.02. These rules apply when the property description is produced as a “stand alone” work product which cannot be edited, which is in fact a very rare occurrence. It is unfortunate that many Land Surveyors do not understand the Board’s rules which have been in place for a number of years. If a Land Surveyor is issuing to you a written property description as a standalone (end product) document/report, then all provisions of both rules must indeed be adhered to including seal and signature. The reason for this is so that in the absence of the survey in the future, that the description would be “second best” and provide adequate useful information to a future retracing surveyor. However, the more common occurrence in Georgia is twofold as follows. </em></p>
<p><em>The first is that surveyors have surveyed a piece of property and are asked to provide a description in Word format and provide it to the attorney for inclusion into the multiple related closing documents (such as warranty deeds, quitclaim deeds, affidavits, disclosures, and security deeds). In this instance, the surveyor is merely producing a raw data work product using software for ease and to minimize the possibility of scrivener’s errors. This is similar to a land surveyor producing an electronic drawing file of a topographic or location survey exercise for an engineer. In either case, the surveyor is not producing the end product, but merely providing an affiliate professional with data that is necessary or useful for their role in the transaction or project. The Board has not assumed any jurisdiction over a Land Surveyor sharing such data with attorneys. In this instance, the attorney is the one who prepares the documents for conveyance and is responsible for the content. Attorneys are not under the jurisdiction of the Board of Registration for Professional Engineers and Land Surveyors. Land Surveyors should not confuse the sharing of a Word file with the issuance of a sealed legal description to be used as an end product for conveyances. </em></p>
<p><em>The second instance is the inclusion of a property description on the face of the survey. In this instance, the information required in 180-7-.02(2) is to already be provided on the face of the survey, and I would see no need to be redundant by citing it within the description on the survey unless someone requested such. The survey itself must meet the requirements for surveys. Additional information that is not required by Board Rules, such as an ALTA certification, vicinity map, or citation of metes and bounds, etc. should be accurate but is not bound by specific technical specifications.</em></p>
<p><em>In conclusion, a Word document property description that is sent to another professional for preparation of an end product is not bound by the same guidelines as a description provided as a final work product. A property description on the face of a survey is “auxiliary” information that is provided at the request of or as a convenience to a client or other end user. The data on the survey is to meet all requirements of Board Rule 180-7-.07, which in turn may also provide the information (such as adjoining property owners) required by 180-7-.02(2). Also, the attorney may change (add, revise, or delete) anything in a property description that is provided in raw electronic format, as the attorney becomes the one responsible for the legal description. The surveyor is just providing helpful data that saves hours of typing bearings, distances, corner descriptions, etc. </em></p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="color: black;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">&nbsp;<font size="4">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </font></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><font size="4">Sounds like these attorneys are inexperienced in conveyancing, or lacking in knowledge, or both.&nbsp; Tell them that if the survey is properly performed, there is no conflict between the monuments on the ground, the bearings and distances the surveyor determined, and the names of the adjoining property owners, in a description based on that survey.</font></span></span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="color: black; font-family: Times New Roman;"><font size="4">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If a description contains bearings and distances that are inaccurate, you WANT the call for adjoining landowners to override them.&nbsp; This is because the description should include all the land up to but not beyond the true boundaries of the adjoining tracts and thus avoid creating overlaps and gores between the property being described and the adjoining tracts.</font></span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="color: black; font-family: Times New Roman;"><font size="4">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; You might, (somewhat&nbsp; sarcastically) suggest to these attorneys that if they are concerned about the possibility of a conflict between the bearings and distances and the calls for adjoiners, the bearings and distances should be omitted from the description, and the description simply call for the adjoining landowners.&nbsp; As stated in <i>Riley v. Griffin</i>, 16 Ga. 141, 60 Am. Dec. 726 (1854) “When the lines or courses of an adjoining tract, are called for in a deed or grant, the lines shall be extended to them, without regard to distance ... courses and distances occupy the lowest grade, instead of the highest, in the scale of evidence, as to the identity of land ... courses and distances ... [are] pointers or guides merely, to ascertain the natural objects of boundary.”</font></span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="color: black; font-family: Times New Roman;"><font size="4">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; It is extremely useful to define all the descriptive elements of boundaries, including listing the adjoining landowners.&nbsp; Probably all of us have had the experience of trying to figure out the general location of a tract of land described in a deed by a long series of calls for monuments, bearings, and distances, and nothing else, and no plat called for.&nbsp; In such cases we often have to sketch the property off, more or less to scale, and compare the sketch with tax maps or whatever, to figure out where the property is.&nbsp; If, in addition, the adjoining landowners are stated, the general location of the land can often be readily visualized, so as to avoid having to go to this trouble.</font></span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="color: black; font-family: Times New Roman;"><font size="4">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I must note that many surveyors are careless about insuring that the names of the adjoining landowners stated on their plats are correct.&nbsp; So many times surveyors rely on tax maps, or they use the names given on an old plat of the land they are surveying (which is often incorrect), or they ask the landowner they are doing the survey for, for the names of the adjoining landowners, and they put that on their plats.&nbsp; Such information is usually incomplete or wrong.&nbsp; Surveyors should always consult, not only the deed for the land they are surveying, but the current, vesting deeds of each adjoining tract, to ascertain that there are no conflicts in the descriptions about the boundaries of the land they are surveying and the adjoining tracts.&nbsp; By having copies of the current, vesting deeds to the adjoining tracts, they have the means to accurately label the adjoining landowners.</font></span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><font size="4">Here is another possible perspective on the above described issue.&nbsp; Title attorneys, of course, generally have no independent means for verifying whether the calls for monuments and the bearings and distances given on a plat made by a surveyor are correct.&nbsp; They have to depend on the trustworthiness of the surveyor for that.&nbsp; But they do know, from title research, the correct names of the adjoining landowners.&nbsp; One of the more frequent complaints attorneys make about surveys is that the names for the adjoining landowners labeled on plats are inaccurate.&nbsp; The names are inaccurate usually for one or more of the reasons stated above.&nbsp; In drawing up metes and bounds  descriptions to be used in deeds, attorneys are often faced with the dilemma of stating the monuments, bearings, and distances from the plat and listing the adjoining (incorrect) landowners given on the plat, which makes the deed description inaccurate; or stating the monuments, bearings, and distances from the plat and listing the correct adjoining landowners, which makes the deed description contradict the plat that is referred to.&nbsp; Attorneys have often expressed exasperation to me about the difficulty of getting surveyors to correct the names of the adjoining landowners on their plats.&nbsp; For the situation under discussion, maybe the attorneys are attempting to sidestep the issue of drafting deed descriptions that give incorrect adjoining landowners (taken from the plat), or drafting deed descriptions that give correct adjoining landowners but that contradict the names of the adjoining landowners given on the plat referred to.</font></span></span></p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 5 Jul 2019 14:27:25 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Farris and would simply expound on one point which is a sore point of mine on many complaint reviews as a Board member and as a practicing surveyor - especially when involved with litigation or title insurance claim surveys.&nbsp; It is not simply a good idea to review current adjoiner information and analyze for conformity, gores, or overlaps, it is a LONG standing Board Rule (long before my tenure began in 2003):</p>
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                        <td class="leftalign" valign="top" style="text-align: left;"> Every parcel of land whose boundaries are surveyed by a land surveyor should be made conformable with the record title boundaries of such land. The land surveyor prior to making such a survey shall acquire the following prerequisite data: deeds, maps, certificates of title, centerline data, right of way data, adjacent descriptions, and other boundary line locations in the vicinity as necessary or available. The land surveyor shall compare and analyze all of the data obtained and make most nearly correct legal determination possible of the position of the boundaries of such parcel. He shall make a field survey traversing and connecting all available monuments appropriate or necessary for the location, and coordinate the facts of such survey with the pre-determined analysis. Not until then shall the monuments marking the corners or such parcel be set, and such monuments shall be set in accordance with the full and most satisfactory analysis obtainable. It shall be the responsibility of the land surveyor to evaluate conformity with adjacent tracts for overlaps and gores and to report the same on all maps, plats, and reports.</td>
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            <td class="leftalign" valign="top" style="text-align: left;"> Required Content. All maps or plats shall be made in a professional manner and in accordance with the standards of good drafting procedures and shall show the following information, as specified: </td>
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            <td class="leftalign" valign="top" style="text-align: left;">The names of adjacent property owners on all lines, along with a notation as to what documents were reviewed for each adjacent property as required by Rule <a href="http://rules.sos.ga.gov/gac/180-7-.02#180-7-.02(1)(a)" title="180-7-.02(1)(a)"><u>180-7-.02(1)(a)</u></a>. Such notation may be the deed book and page of the record title description, recorded plats, and other documents or surveys that were obtained through the course of the survey. In cases where the adjacent property is a recorded subdivision, it is sufficient to state the name, phase if applicable, and recording information of the subdivision plat, along with lot lines and lot numbers. (A title search is not required for this.)</td>
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<description><![CDATA[Thank you guys for your explanation.  Dealing with attorneys can be stressful for anyone,especially Surveyors when addressing attorney comments for a large real estate closing. Your input and help is appreciated.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[This was brought to my attention and upon brief discussion realized that I didn't address something.  I'm interested to know if my fellow surveyors know of attorneys who research adjacent properties when doing title searches.  I only know of a couple of "top notch" title companies in Atlanta that do this, and mainly on high dollar commercial property.  Otherwise I'm pretty sure that 99+% of title searches look only at the subject property and its back chain (liens, estates, proper sequence of conveyance, etc.) with total oblivion to the adjacent properties.  I've never had an attorney tell me that my adjoining property owner is wrong.  I will agree again that a lot of surveyors cut many corners by using whatever adjoiner the last survey or tax assessor proclaims, or leave adjoiners off all together, which is a compounding axis of slop and incompetence.  My point is that I don't think that even 1% of closing attorneys and title agents ever look at adjacent property owners...  Thoughts?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Your experience is exactly mine.  I agree that no more than 1% of closing attorneys and title researchers include adjoining property, and that is being generous.  I've never asked one about this and just assumed that their perspective is different than mine.  To my recollection, I have never surveyed any property without including the adjacent properties in my deed and plat research, in fact, many times I wind up with more deeds and plats of the adjoining property than the subject property which is just as important.]]></description>
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