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Stolen Equipment – Fulton County 0 T. Pruitt, Jr.   One of our crews suffered a theft while working at the Sheltering Arms Obama Academy, 195 Tuskegee Street Southeast, Atlanta, GA, 30315, Fulton County. The Thieves took: Item Type Model Serial Number Total Station Robot Geomax Zoom90 R1 A10 953972 Bluetooth Handle Geomax ZRT82 Zoom90 3184545 Tribrach Leica   1104 Total Station Batteries Geomax ZBA400 11516 Dutch Hill Fiber Glass Legs        
by T. Pruitt, Jr.
Friday, November 15, 2019
On Line Surveying Courses 4 J. Green Thanks, Roger. I forwarded your contact information to him.
by J. Green
Wednesday, November 13, 2019
Hound Dog Magnetic Locator 0 W. Duggan Greetings all. Does anyone have any experience or heard anything good or bad about the Hound Dog Mag. locator offered from Chris Nik, the mag nail folks?
by W. Duggan
Saturday, November 9, 2019
2020 SAMSOG/NSPS Plat Contest Announcement 0 R. Purcell SURVEYING AND MAPPING SOCIETY OF GEORGIA (SAMSOG) 2020 Annual Plat and Mapping Competition It’s that time again! We need your best plats! SAMSOG’s entries in 2019 were outstanding and again we had some terrific winners! Look at the names of the winners given below. We want to see your name as a winner in 2020. 2019 NSPS National Winner Topographical Plats 2nd Place: Brian Hewes                                       Land Engineering, Inc.                                           McDonough, GA                                                                         2019 SAMSOG Plat Contest Winners ALTA Plats 1st Place: Shane Rousey                                          2nd Place: Lewis Shelton Donaldson, Garrett & Assoc.                                      LRS Surveying Macon, GA                                                                  Cartersville, GA                                                                                           Boundary Plats 1st Place: Darin Cain                                                 2nd Place: Adam Baxley London Land Surveying & Assoc.                              Land Engineering, Inc.  Cleveland, GA                                                             McDonough, GA          Topographical Plats 1st Place: Brian Hewes                                             2nd Place: Adam Baxley Land Engineering, Inc.                                                Land Engineering, Inc. McDonough, GA                                                          McDonough, GA                 Subdivision Plats 1st Place: Jason Woods                                           2nd Place: Chris Patton        Harris Gray, LLC                                                         Patton Land Surveying  West Point, GA                                                           Gainesville, GA      Miscellaneous Maps 1st Place: Robyn White                                             2nd Place: Jason Woods Patton Land Surveying                                               Harris Gray, LLC Gainesville, GA                                                           West Point, GA   GIS Maps 1st Place: Katina Whittier                                         2nd Place: Brian Lackey                       Chatham County Engineering                                    Columbus Consolidated Gov’t                 Savannah, GA                                                            Columbus, GA          SAMSOG’s 2020 Annual Plat and Mapping Competition This will be a juried contest.  All winning entries will be exhibited at the SAMSOG Technical Seminar on January 16th-18th, 2020. Map/Plat entries must be a PDF file. No paper copies.  Entrants need not be members of SAMSOG. (For winners that go to the NSPS competition, paper copies may be required.)  A member of SAMSOG must sponsor the map, plat or project under consideration and their name must be so noted on the nomination form.  The entry plat/map must have been completed after June 30, 2018 and may not have previously been entered in this contest. The entry many be freehand, machine drafted or computer aided drafted. The maximum map size is 34” by 44”. Prizes to be awarded 1st Place will receive $250 and admission for two to the Awards Luncheon and a Certificate. 2nd Place receive admission for one to the Awards Luncheon and a Certificate. Prizes will be awarded at the 2020 SAMSOG Technical Seminar Awards Luncheon Thursday, January 16, 2020. Submit a high resolution PDF or submit on CD-ROM if file size is too large for e-mail. (The form will be posted on the SAMSOG website.) No multiple entries for the same category. Submissions must be a single drawing; it may originate as part of a set of drawings, however, it must be entered as a single sheet.  All entries must be received by 5pm on Monday, December 2nd, 2019.  Use one entry form per document submitted.      SAMSOG’s 2020 Annual Plat and Mapping Competition: Entry Form See Attachment All entries will be judged on adherence to the minimum standards as set forth by the State of Georgia and/or ALTA/NSPS as appropriate. The judges will consider quality, content, innovation in layout, interpretability, presentation, applicability to typical client or persons using this type of map, and correctness. Neatness and accuracy of scale will also be considered.  The decisions of the judges are final. SAMSOG will sponsor the 1st place winners for Subdivision, Boundary, Topographical, ALTA/NSPS and Miscellaneous Categories from this competition in the National NSPS Plat Contest. (Use one entry form per document submitted.)   Please send me your plats!!! Thanks: Dr. Roger C. Purcell, P.E., R.L.S. Plat Contest Committee Chairman Georgia Southern University Civil Engineering & Construction Department P.O. Box 8077 Statesboro, GA 30460  email: rcpurcell@georgiasouthern.edu   Shipping Address: Engineering Building, Rm 1120A 201 COBA Drive, BLDG 232 Statesboro, GA 30458
by R. Purcell
Friday, November 1, 2019
Name changes and dates on plats 3 M. Chastain Farris, thanks for that. I had already planned on not changing the date, just the bank name, but wasn't comfortable with a way to somehow address the change in banks and cover my rear. Reason being, bank XYZ was not in the picture in 2013, so for their name to show up would cast doubt on what was done and when, should any issues ever arise. Addressing bank XYZ with a full explanation is a great idea (your note: "To Bank XYZ:"). Two points of follow up:1. I asked the attorney whether a change in name only with no date change was okay back when I posted this, and told him that if he needed a new date we'd need to go down and properly "update" the survey. He never has got back to me yet. Presumption: realizing that changing name only didn't get them a "current" survey date, he just dropped it and never intended to pay for it anyway.2. You give too much credit to title insurance companies. Apparently in the last 5 years they have all lost at least 90% of their people who had knowledge, understanding, and morals. They seem to hardly care, even when there is a claim. We do a lot of claim work for several title insurance companies in a broad multi-state area. A heavy majority are not due to survey error but sloppy closing attorneys and title agents. I've seen some really remarkably horrible stuff that has cost title companies thousands and even hundreds of thousands. Some of the claims counsel attorneys have confidentially shared with me that it is sickening to them too, but that HQ deems it an acceptable cost of doing business, even when some closing attorneys write a disproportionate amount of bad policies that result in claims. It's all business, just like when they quit requiring "loan surveys". They just want to collect that title insurance premium (today). Claims and pay-outs make up a budget line that HQ has deemed to be an acceptable "cost of doing business", and as long as their annual totals are under that, it was a good year.
by M. Chastain
Friday, October 18, 2019
Surveying Military Base 1 P. Sanchez You may find this useful Pete. https://www.publications.usace.army.mil/Portals/76/Publications/EngineerRegulations/ER_1110-1-8152.pdf?ver=2013-09-08-233410-043https://www.publications.usace.army.mil/Portals/76/Publications/EngineerManuals/EM_1110-1-1005.pdfAny military base project that I have worked on in the past (as a contractor) has been under the supervision of a Licensed Surveyor holding licensure in that state. However, Engineers and Surveyors employed by the federal government are not legally required to be licensed by the state.
by S. Payne
Thursday, October 3, 2019
Surveyors Records 12 D. May Quote: Originally posted by D. May: As many of you know, I maintain a spreadsheet of the location of the records of surveyors who have closed, merged, retired or passed away.  As all of you know, when it comes to plats and deeds a picture can truly be worth a thousand words.  These old plats are invaluable to the conscientious surveyor.  If anyone would like this spreadsheet then email me.  If you see any errors or would like to add to the list then let me know.  And feel free to pass it on. Happy researching, David David will you send me a copy please.
by J. Harbeson
Friday, September 13, 2019
Milton Robert Lemon Records 1 J. Higgins Just emailed the records spreadsheet to you Jaime. Mr. Lemon's contact info is in there.David
by D. May
Friday, September 6, 2019
Legal Descriptions 7 J. Green Your experience is exactly mine. I agree that no more than 1% of closing attorneys and title researchers include adjoining property, and that is being generous. I've never asked one about this and just assumed that their perspective is different than mine. To my recollection, I have never surveyed any property without including the adjacent properties in my deed and plat research, in fact, many times I wind up with more deeds and plats of the adjoining property than the subject property which is just as important.
by S. Coleman
Wednesday, August 21, 2019
Mathis Surveyors 0 J. Higgins Anyone know if Glenn Mathis' records are accessible?
by J. Higgins
Wednesday, August 21, 2019
Record of Lee Engineering 0 M. Lincoln Does anyone know who might have the records of Lee Engineering, C.E. Lee, LS 1093?
by M. Lincoln
Friday, August 16, 2019
Backup Software 0 C. Branscom Need recommendations for a good backup software. We did have NTI ver 4 but it is no longer available. I tried the newer version and do not like the way the software works.
by C. Branscom
Monday, August 5, 2019
HP Plotter Repair 2 M. Lincoln Thanks
by M. Lincoln
Monday, July 29, 2019
Northern Boundary of Georgia--Again; and Macon-Bibb/Monroe Boundary 1 Farris Cadle, Inc. Governor Kemp vetoed House Resolution 51 which would have created a commission to study the possibility of moving the northern boundary of Georgia.  Go to  https://static.votesmart.org/static/vetotext/67531.pdf and scroll down to near the bottom.  I suppose Kemp has had his fill of boundary issues as a result of dealing with the Macon-Bibb/Monroe situation.
by Farris Cadle, Inc.
Monday, July 29, 2019
Subdivision By Deed 1 J. Higgins See posts below under "Ethics Question", July 20, 2018.  City and county engineers tell me that water, sewerage, and electrical services, and trash pickup and street and other maintenance can be denied to such illegal subdivisions.  I would be interested to know of any instances in which this has been done, so I can tell that to the next attorney who asks me to make a plat to enable him/her do such.  
by Farris Cadle, Inc.
Tuesday, July 23, 2019
Northern Boundary of Georgia--Again 3 Farris Cadle, Inc. Lets not forget about the on going issue regarding the county line dispute between Monroe County and Bibb County.................
by D. Collins
Monday, July 15, 2019
2019 Summer Meeting 0 D. Collins Looking forward to seeing everyone next week.
by D. Collins
Saturday, July 13, 2019
GLS Archives New Projects 6 J. Lewis Josh IV, I've had a lot of folks run this by me, and I've not been on the forum in several weeks or I would have responded sooner.  Here's my two cents worth: 1. I agree that the GDOT system isn't great but we've learned to search it many ways and seldom have to send in a request.  My understanding is that GDOT is going through a multi-step process from the days when all plans were in drawers organized by project number downtown.  The steps go from scanning, to renaming, to entering into their system, and then to georeference the project on their GIS platform.  The first thing that we do is draw the search box on their map and see if it pulls anything up.  This in my experience is successful about half of the time, sometimes more and sometimes less.  The project number for some reason is seldom a viable search query, and most deeds don't have PIDs which usually do work 95+% of the time.  We'll do a refined search and include the highway number (i.e. SR56) but that doesn't always work because some roads weren't state routes at the time, and some route numbers have been changed.  What works a lot if you have it is the description of the project, such as "Doraville to Hapeville Road", I'll often filter by county and one of the towns that the project connected.  It's usually stated on the right of way deed, but if you don't have the right of way deed one can guess by the towns on each end of that section of state route.  They have folks working on it, it's just a slow process. 2. You are obviously more experienced and knowledgeable on indexing software, and GLS Archives has become a very valuable search tool that we refer to often.  But, I can't figure out how this would be indexed such that it could be searchable in an efficient manner.  For example, if I'm in a GMD between Ocilla and Fitgerald, how would GLS help point me to the appropriate and most current set of plans fronting the property that I'm surveying?  You may can find a way to index by mile post or street address?  If that's possible than it would be a big help and I'd probably be willing to jump over to your site and pay $10 but a plan sheet rather than searching myself.  I also think about all of the state projects that might turn up in a land lot search in Gwinnett County, and how to sort through those.  Again, you may have a plan that would make it very helpful and efficient, and if so I personally would likely use it. 3. The plans are public information.  I would not worry about the "political side" just yet, if ever.  Download them from GDOT and start indexing them.  A thorough indexing exercise would most likely shed light on what is not available on the website and you could request the missing pieces then.  If you searched (and downloaded) by county, I think you may could get everything there is including what is not georeferenced yet, and you might not need anything else, I'm not sure.  I'd be surprised if political help were necessary with this approach, but I guess you never know. In summary, I support and appreciate your efforts.  If you are able to get GDOT plans into GLS Archives in a manner that can be effectively searched, I think that folks would use it and pay for the scans.  I think that technically/legally you wouldn't be charging for the scans, as they are public information, instead you would be charging for the sorting, searching, and delivery of the (free) scans just like people pay for public records searches all of the time.  If I can help, let me know. MEC
by M. Chastain
Tuesday, June 25, 2019
Ray Allgood Records 0 J. Higgins Anyone know if Ray Allgood's previous records are accessible, or who the caretaker might be?
by J. Higgins
Wednesday, May 8, 2019
Ansel Poe 2 M. Lincoln Thanks
by M. Lincoln
Monday, April 29, 2019
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